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When polar opposites fight to defeat a common cause

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  • Independent
    Washington
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    Following the news on healthcare, its interesting that Democrats and far right republicans are both working to defeat the current healthcare bill, and their combined efforts might succeed.

    - Democrats want to improve the current system, so they are fighting all efforts to replace it.
    - Far Right Republicans don't like the current bill because it makes too many compromises and will not settle for anything other that total repeal of the ACA.

    If there is a stalemate, the danger is that the current healthcare bill will be striped down to simply repealing the ACA by the end of 2019. This gives them two years to replace it. However, the risk with that approach would be that democrats gain enough control and are able to replace it with ACA 2.0.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Pensacola, FL
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    The answer to all these problems is to quit attacking Trump. Once again I explained Trump, charisma and how to defeat him almost 18 months ago when I joined this sight. I did that all through the campaign even writing on Oct 28 the final scenario in spite of losing in the polls of Trump winning. You defeat a charismatic person by improving on the charismatic persons ideas. State that their idea is good, helps define then problem and is enlightening to the point of our own idea that goes even further. 18 months of attacking Trump made him president. Keep up the attacks and he will be leader of the world. He doesn't care what he does because he gets charismatic approval. The fact that he hasn't met, said or done anything for the Vets after saying how much he loves, appreciates and will do for them proves he has no conscience.
  • Independent
    Washington
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    Hmm, not sure I understand. The idea I was trying to communicate is how two opposing political sides unintentionally work together to achieve the same objective despite that their political goals are polar opposite.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    wwjd Wrote: Hmm, not sure I understand. The idea I was trying to communicate is how two opposing political sides unintentionally work together to achieve the same objective despite that their political goals are polar opposite.

    Yes I know what you mean; however right now it has nothing to do with "healthcare", it has become an "personal" battle. Everyone sees somehow that their own positions may become endangered because of the "chaos". It is Bannon's objective to create "chaos" because then you can "rebuilt" the system to your liking as an "White Superior Christian" run country.

    Why did Bannon release an "bad" statement of Ryan? Just to create "chaos!!!!!!

    Sorry to say the Dem's have no idea on how they can fight all of this. Neither do they understand all these "tactics" nor the "diversion tactics" used on an daily basis. The "unintentionally" part is because they are "dragged " into the "chaos" and are too stupid to realize they are being "used" and if the GOP succeeds, they certainly will never receive any credit for their help. Thus Dem's don't help them; otherwise your party will be doomed only more.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Trump will "give in" to the far right because he has no reservations about dumping on the citizenry.
  • Independent
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Trump will "give in" to the far right because he has no reservations about dumping on the citizenry.

    I agree in the sense that he wants bragging rights to having killed "Obamacare" and will sign any healthcare bill put in front of him.

    We all seem to agree Trump feels the need to erase everything related to Obama presidency regardless to the impact. Hell, it easy to imagine this hypothetical tweet: "Obama didn't kill Binlanden, his death was faked. Trust me, I know everything Obama lied about, and he lied A LOT to the America people about everything"

    Can't wait for Trump's nick name for Obama.