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The Flynn effect

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  • Independent
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    A lot of news of what Flynn has done in relation with Russia; I think the "news" is afraid to think further and sticks only to that this guy acted kind of by himself. I doubt that, I bet that Trump "sent" him to do so, already way ahead of the election.

    Of course Trump told his "cronies" to deny everything; "hand on the Bible" means nothing for these guys.

    Now also in the news; Russia wants to give "Snowdon" as an"present" to Trump. It really looks like horse trading. What has Trump to do in return??? I guess you guessed it.

    The whole Trump bunch acts just like little kids. What an country!!

  • Liberal Democrat
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    The real facts are starting to come out a little at a time. At some point, Trump will have to tell Flynn, "You're fired" to protect himself. His own image is at stake here...more important to him than any Russia connection.
  • Independent
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    May be this makes Trump happy, if he gets Snowdon; then he can "torture" him, what he really seems to enjoy.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Time, February 10, 2017: The White House Keeps Tripping Up on the Truth. President Trump Doesn't Seem to Mind

    This article in Time magazine provides a more in-depth discussion of how Mike Pence went out on a limb for Flynn, got suspicious, found out Flynn lied, and now everyone has shut up for the time being at least...until more information leaks. It makes for interesting reading...not too long.

    Flynn's time in the Trump administration may be limited.

  • Liberal Democrat
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    As we have discussed some time ago in one of these threads, Flynn was a bad choice from the get go. Leaked e-mails reveal that Colin Powell had a poor opinion of Flynn, and Barack Obama fired him. See this Washington Post article.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Kellyanne Conway confirmed today that Flynn has the full confidence of the president. Trump doesn't seem to have much choice but to keep him. President Obama reportedly fired Flynn in April 2014 because he was " abusive with staff, didn’t listen, worked against policy, bad management skills, and exhibited a loose relationship with facts, leading his subordinates to refer to Flynn's repeated dubious assertions as "Flynn facts"".

    In spite of these revelations, or maybe because Obama fired him, Donald Trump chose to hire him. If Obama fired him and then Trump hired him, he would look foolish to fire him. Obama supporters would say, "I told you so." That's something that Trump's ego just cannot stand.

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    I hope more information comes forward and scrutiny is hard and conditions become worse. I will hope that he (DT) gets questioned and negative events are unacceptable to most. I don't like most of his dictatorship and will enjoy each negative being recorded.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Well Flynn has resigned (fired). Now he has the distinction of being fired by both Obama and Trump. It's kind of like coaches being fired and recycled.
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    Excellent job of extreme vetting, Donnie.
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    Yes, one domino falls. Not a lot but the first and surely not the last. In a best case scenario, it will become more apparent to supporters that it was a bad choice and in '20 maybe we can try again.

    addictinginfo.org/2017/02/13/breaking-r...

  • Independent
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    TJ Wrote:

    Yes, one domino falls. Not a lot but the first and surely not the last. In a best case scenario, it will become more apparent to supporters that it was a bad choice and in '20 maybe we can try again.

    addictinginfo.org/2017/02/13/breaking-r...

    Yes, more domino's are going to fall. What about his "winter palace" where he deals and wheels on his golf course doing his "own" business. Wake up America and get your microphones installed on every sand trap and tuff of grass of this golf course. He is breaking the "law" every day and America closes its eyes. Unbelievable!!!!!!!!!!

    However Bannon and Miller and LIAR Pence (our "bible guy) are still there, that is still the biggest problem. Then on top of that the super "holy christian" health care appointment guy who wants to stop abortion and birth control pills worldwide. Unbelievable!!!!!!!!

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    Forever there have been and will be persons on both sides of all issues. The group that is critical is the media because they are informed and trusted. They need to assume their roles and be a positive force. I am still waiting for that to be the case.
  • Independent
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    TJ Wrote: Forever there have been and will be persons on both sides of all issues. The group that is critical is the media because they are informed and trusted. They need to assume their roles and be a positive force. I am still waiting for that to be the case.

    Tony, as long as the "media" invites guys who are fanatic Trump supporters then how is the population going to be educated. Most of the time they invite the same guys who push their stupidity. So I don't think it works. Protests don't work either if the "leaders" shove it aside and close their eyes for it.

    My feeling is as I said in the past this Titanic will eventually hit the iceberg, without any interference of "passengers" like us. Amen

  • Independent
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    May be not part of the Flynn effect but my guess this will also end up as an disaster.

    Regardless of all the protests and town hall meetings "asshole" Ryan talks as always, even today, that he will get rid of the ACA etc. Sure the guy got "cement" for brains. But "yeah" that is what you get if you've elected "evangelical" idiots as well the anti- abortion guys for healthcare and V.P. positions.

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    Lies and misinformation is the soup Du jour. We won't be told the truth but you can bet it will be bad. Flynn in bed with Russia. Last campaign manager (Manafort ?) was deeply tied to Russia. Trump has serious man love for Vladimir Putin. The campaign garbage was key. Repaid with reduced sanctions and the 500 billion Exxon deal. Some say Russian aspiration includes more territories in Eastern Europe. Eventually the hammer will fall. Luckily for Vlad, the only deterrent is bought and paid for.

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