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    (I apologize if I'm in the wrong place, I Googled 'liberals' and ended up here. Want to provide some info you may not be aware of):

    I recently purchased a book called "The Good News Club: The Christian Right's Stealth Assault on America's Children" (author: Katherine Stewart). The name of the 'club' may sound nice on the surface, but it's far from honest. These individuals have been setting up their 'clubs' (indoctrination into fundamentalism) all over the U.S., and even turning public schools into 'churches' at taxpayers' expense. While they're in high schools and middle schools, the primary focus is the youngest children in elementary schools. They manipulated their way into getting the U.S. Supreme Court to back them up, so school districts, administrators, parents, etc., cannot keep them out.

    I don't know if there's anything we average citizens can do about this, but please pass the info on to everyone you know who has kids in school or preparing to start school.

    goodnewsclubs.info/abusiveshame.htm

  • Liberal
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    Durham, NH
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    It's only going to get a lot worse than this, unfortunately, if DeVos gets appointed and I have no doubt she will be.

    The Dem senators and party leaders are laying on their backs acting like puppies, scared to death to not work with Trumpy. They have learned nothing. They are letting us all down and recovery in next to impossible until they wake up and realize "playing nice" is only for losers - ask Hillary .

  • Center Left
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    Central, FL
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    You make good points pr. I don't give a damn if other members are dismissing his ways or methods. All he is doing now is running the free world. Democratic leadership failed badly. Until that's admitted, accepted and learned from... We will continue to lose.

  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Starmom; Education in this country is unbelievable. I like to compare it to Europe. Down there it is as Bernie was promoting: "free education" including "high school " etc. Also no "religion"is part of the curiculum; just education to be able to get an decent job as well learning to analyse things, as well on how the world works economically and culture wise.

    I had to learn four languages etc. the "sports" thing was not part of the school, just learning. The wrong thing here is, way too much emphasize on "sports"; I guess just for the "money" or "prestige" of the school.

    Religion on schools is absolutely wrong; first of all it hampers the brain from becoming analytic; it blocks realistic thinking. The time spent on that is wasted; such time can be better spent on things which will help the kid in this world environment which is rapidly changing. Lower class jobs will be an thing of the past, because robots will take over; thus the education has to be adapted to that in an big way, which will need an lot of effort and time of the kid to adapt to the ever changing work environment as well social adaption to a changing world. Religion is "antique" nonsense ( if parents want to indoctrinate the kid, sure that is fine with me) but does not help the kid; neither does anything "up there" You are on your own on this world, so adapt to that; not to "fantasy"

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    I didn't think "God" was allowed in public schools at all?
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    No; an "human" invented "god" thing has no place in schools. It never will help an kid to have an open analytic mind.

    Trump "swears " on the Bible not to lie; but lies every day; sorry there is no "god" to stop him; he's on vacation on Jupiter.

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    The Democrats failed because they want God out. When you don't have God it's bad. That's why Obumer failed in his presidency. That's why Clinton did not get elected, because Americans are tired of the failed policies of Obumer.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Dude Wrote: The Democrats failed because they want God out. When you don't have God it's bad. That's why Obumer failed in his presidency. That's why Clinton did not get elected, because Americans are tired of the failed policies of Obumer.
    Which "planet" do you live on???? Sorry No "god" thing ever interfered in "human " activity. Everything done by "humans" is done by "humans" alone. Take the test.
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    People really don't have a clue. If you keep taking God out of everything it's gonna be very bad. It's sad when you can worship the devil who don't care about anyone, he is out to kill steel and destroy, but no one says anything about that in schools. The problem is people don't like the conviction the bible brings so they try to take it out. We need God in schools and we need God in Government. If you don't like that then move to other countries and see how do without God. It's not good.
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    Yea! You are right in a sence. Humans do some pretty stupid things without knowing what the word of God says. Maybe you need to read the Bible and learn what it says. You might learn something if your open your heart.
  • Independent
    Ft.myers, FL
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    Dude Wrote: People really don't have a clue. If you keep taking God out of everything it's gonna be very bad. It's sad when you can worship the devil who don't care about anyone, he is out to kill steel and destroy, but no one says anything about that in schools. The problem is people don't like the conviction the bible brings so they try to take it out. We need God in schools and we need God in Government. If you don't like that then move to other countries and see how do without God. It's not good.

    Unbelievable; what is an "human" invented "god" doing; can the thing write or understand the Constitution? No everything on this earth is certainly not controlled or influenced by anything from outer space. An "human" created GOD thing is pure fantasy and does not exist; take the test. All "human" books including "bibles and "korans" are/were written by "humans" not by Marsians. Humans invented "writing" not "ghosts"

    Thus the message is: no religion at schools or the government "seperation of church and state is the law".Churches should start paying taxes because it is an pure business enterprise, selling "snake oil"

  • Liberal Democrat
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    Colorado Springs, CO
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    Dude -- Most of us have no problem with religious people of any denomination, and certainly not me. You can practice your religious beliefs in any way you want to, but when you start trying to impose your beliefs on me through government policies, then you'll get push back from me and a whole bunch of others including religious people.

    The point that Dutch has made that many people like Trump are not truly religious or if they are they worship some kind of money god. I happen to know quite well the teachings of Jesus because my mother taught them to me and she lived her life that way. She was also married to my father, an atheist, and they stayed true to each their entire lives until their deaths. I never saw either of them criticize the other for their beliefs. What I learned from them is religious tolerance.

    While my mother was a faithful Christian, she never pushed her views onto others, except perhaps her children, but even then my brothers and sisters and I saw that we had a choice from two influential role models in our lives. When I look at so called Christians, very few of them measure up to my mother. I call many of them hypocrites because they do not live their lives according to the very scriptures they are so determined to push onto me and others.

    Donald Trump is the biggest phony of them all, yet he conned some 80 percent of evangelicals to vote for him. Hillary Clinton was a hell of a better role model for Christians than Trump whose selfishness, greed and "bearing false witness" on anyone who disagrees with him would make the devil proud to vote for him.

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    I assume all you "non-God" people really dislike muslims? they're very devout and its literally their way is the only way, zero tolerance for the infidels

    Christian God hasn't been allowed in schools for years - and that's fine with me. God and Politics don't belong in schools - education is what should be taught there, everything else is for the parents at home to teach

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    Hillary Clinton was a hell of a better role model for Christians than Trump

    You don't look to the Presidency for role models for religion.

    Good gawd

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    conservativecat Wrote: I assume all you "non-God" people really dislike muslims? they're very devout and its literally their way is the only way, zero tolerance for the infidels

    We all know what assumptions do...

    And I encourage you to actually talk to a Muslim sometime instead of delivering a blanket statement about a religion that well over one billion people on this planet adhere to. It's statements like that which continue to divide us.