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Trump Voters Will be Hit Hardest After Obamacare Repeal

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  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The sad truth about the people who voted for Donald Trump and Republican representatives is that many of them are going to be the most negatively affected when the Affordable Care Act is repealed. Voters in Kentucky, Mississippi, Louisiana, and countless other states that went for Trump are disproportionately poorer and sicker than people in more left of center states. That means they just voted to make their lives far more difficult and potentially just wrote their own death sentence if they become ill.

    Sarah Kliff of Vox recently went to Kentucky to talk with people who benefited from Obamacare but also voted for Trump. I encourage anyone to read the full article, but the crux of it discusses how these people didn't actually believe that Republicans were serious about repealing Obamacare. I apologize if I'm hurting anyone's feelings, but this is absurd. How did these people convince themselves that the people who spent the past seven years trying to dismantle Obamacare wouldn't actually do so if they were able to?

    Part of me feels bad for the Trump voters who will go into bankruptcy or die because they no longer have the coverage they had under Obamacare, but the other part of me doesn't feel that bad for them. They made the choice to vote for someone who will make their lives more difficult and now they will unfortunately reap what they sowed.

  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    jaredsxtn said:
    "They made the choice to vote for someone who will make their lives more difficult and now they will unfortunately reap what they sowed."
    "for Trump are disproportionately poorer and sicker than people in more left of center states."
    Those people that are sicker and poorer voted for somebody that promised them a new life. Make America Great Again with lots of good paying jobs. Why are they sicker and poorer after 8 years under a Democratic president. They were lied to now they have to reap what they sow. Why wasn't there a Democratic Platform to promise them a better life. Like you said, they are sicker and poorer. That is why Trump is president and nothing will change for them. Nobody that could help cared about them then and nobody that can do anything for them cares about them now.
    Absolutely nothing was learned about why Trump was elected.
  • Liberal
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    They hate Obamacare but just love their ACA, what else can we say? Thank people like this help determine our government!
  • Independent
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    Lately I have been looking at the Vice channel ; they have an series called "abandoned"; it shows all the places which look like any "third" world country. First they had Cleveland with two abandoned Malls, then St Louis with 20 closed schools as well churches, houses in East St Louis, however they started an "new" school in St Louis ; guess what? for the "military", because there are plenty of "lower" classes without an job there, so they can get lots of free cannon fodder, who can't afford an "real" school. Then we have all the abandoned things in New Orleans since the flooding, as well the Six Flags park which is taken over by alligators and has become an Trump swamp; everything is still there including the ride carts, shops, ride structures etc. all deserted like an ghost town. All these "series" show exactly the state of our country. Just drive through Detroit then you know enough. My feeling is that if nothing is done to "clean up" those area's things will only get worse and more and more of these "abandoned" area's will pop up. Sure America is "number one"; you must be kidding!!!
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    I don't know how many times I have to say it but all the problems are because the investment money has shifted to zero velocity easy profit gambling on derivatives.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: jaredsxtn said: Absolutely nothing was learned about why Trump was elected.

    Trump was elected because he convinced enough angry white people in a handful of swing states that everyone else is to blame for all of their problems and that he alone will fix it.

    I'll remind you for the millionth time that he lost the popular vote by 3 million.


    And I couldn't disagree with you more regarding the rest of your comments. Many people in those states are angry seeing other people get Medicaid when they didn't, but that's the fault of their *Republican* governor and state legislatures who decided that they wanted to make their citizens lives more difficult for political purposes.

    These same people will now be the ones who come crying to everyone else how unfair it is that they no longer have health coverage after the Republicans take it away from them. But the Republicans will still find a way to blame the Democrats and those voters will lap it up like they always do.

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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    Chet Ruminski Wrote: jaredsxtn said: Absolutely nothing was learned about why Trump was elected.

    Trump was elected because he convinced enough angry white people in a handful of swing states that everyone else is to blame for all of their problems and that he alone will fix it.

    I'll remind you for the millionth time that he lost the popular vote by 3 million.


    And I couldn't disagree with you more regarding the rest of your comments. Many people in those states are angry seeing other people get Medicaid when they didn't, but that's the fault of their *Republican* governor and state legislatures who decided that they wanted to make their citizens lives more difficult for political purposes.

    These same people will now be the ones who come crying to everyone else how unfair it is that they no longer have health coverage after the Republicans take it away from them. But the Republicans will still find a way to blame the Democrats and those voters will lap it up like they always do.

    Yes Jared, I agree 100% with you; but as you said they still have the "colored" glasses on and indeed have to depend on awful stupid brainwashed Governors.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Dutch Wrote: Yes Jared, I agree 100% with you; but as you said they still have the "colored" glasses on and indeed have to depend on awful stupid brainwashed Governors.
    I'm so sad that these Trump voters are going to find out that their lives are only going to get much worse after Trump and the Republican Congress take away their health coverage.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Trump got elected because the Democratic Party deserted the working class. Forget about the 3,000,000 popular vote Hillary had over Trump. She should had blown him off the map. It is preposterous that Hillary spent about $10 a vote and Trump spent about $5 a vote.

    Democratic Presidents 16 out of 24 years should have guaranteed a Democratic victory. Obama and first half Hillary were telling the people that the people were doing well. People will desert anything for a promise of good paying jobs. Over 600 nmillion dollars against over 300 million dollars..Nothing was learned because nobody cares.

  • Liberal
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    Hard to argue with that Chet. To make things even worse, I see no move on the part of the Democratic leaders to correct their failure to appeal to 99% of the population. As long as people like Pelosie and Schumer are in control the party has no place to go. Until the Dems get down to the level of the arepubs and fight fire with fire they are doomed. Any candidate that couldn't beat the likes of Trump (or any of the clowns than ran on the same failure of a political platform) is a failure in my opinion. When you have a dumb, undereducated and informed constituency you have to appeal their basic needs, i.e. Jobs. Most of us are smart enough to know and understand politics is nothing more than winning by appearing to appeali to the base's needs rather than their actual needs. Once you win then you can rise up and actually do something meaningful for those you convinced to elect you if you so desire. Bait and switch wins, unfortunately, as witnessed by the mess this country is in today thanks to the Democrats failure to promise the electorate the world in return for their support no matter how outlandish their promises may be.
  • Center Left
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    As a party we have no leadership. To me the time to act is now. Perhaps we've become comfortable being the minority. It allows you.... well we can do nothing.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    The party is refusing to accept responsibility. The USA is give:

    "Give me your tired, your poor, Your huddled masses yearning to breathe free, The wretched refuse"

    The USA is loaded with tired, poor and hungry but top heavy with people who could care less. The "deplorables" is an excuse to blame party failure on. I watch "House Hunters International" where people are relocating for foreign jobs and looking for houses. It is absolutely amazing to see property values and conditions everywhere so high while the USA bounces in and out of bubbles at the will of profit takers.

  • Independent
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    TJ Wrote: As a party we have no leadership. To me the time to act is now. Perhaps we've become comfortable being the minority. It allows you.... well we can do nothing.
    Tony, I'm not so pessimistic. Someone said may be it will be an good idea to let Trump do what he wants to do, so at an given moment he will run into an brick (self created) wall and commit suicide. So don't put anything in his way. May be not such an bad idea after all. Bi-polar people like him with way too much "ego" won't last.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    Chet Ruminski Wrote: Trump got elected because the Democratic Party deserted the working class. Forget about the 3,000,000 popular vote Hillary had over Trump. She should had blown him off the map. It is preposterous that Hillary spent about $10 a vote and Trump spent about $5 a vote.

    Trump got elected because he convinced enough white, often racist, down on their luck voters that everyone else is to blame for all of their problems. Those white, often racist, down on their luck voters see America changing from them ruling everything to a melting pot where the color of their skin no longer guarantees them them a leg up.

    Instead of learning to adapt they picked someone who promised them that he will take them back to the days when "America was great" - aka the glory days when whites ruled everything regardless of their qualifications. The sad thing for them is that they will soon find out that he alone won't be able to fix all of their problems.

    And writing off the 3,000,000 more people who voted for Clinton over Trump is unfortunate. We have become a laughing stock to the rest of the world since we love to tell everyone else how to run their countries but then ignore the will of the people in our own in order to prop up an arcane system that was created to perpetuate slavery and white supremacy.

    I'd also prefer to lose every single election going forward if it means we have to sink to the level that Donald Trump did. If it takes white nationalism, sexism, and xenophobia to win a Presidential election in America then I'd rather lose.


    Back to healthcare please. We have more than enough threads about Trump's election.

  • Liberal
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    We shall see if you would still like to lose in four years - I doubt it.