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Who cost us the election, new view

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  • Center Left
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    I ask about the absence of a drastically popular man who had the attention of Millennials. Jon Stewart was on television nightly for 17 years. He poked fun at politicians, Fox news, and extreme segments in our society. I don't suggest he tried to do bad but he was a champion of progressive causes and liberals across this country until about 1 year ago.

    Last night I saw a current interview on the show on PBS hosted by Charlie Rose. He interviewed Stewart and Stewart gave me the first hope that I have had in over 2 weeks. He said you can't categorize Trump followers with blanket statements. Many deserve the negative consideration but many do not. It was really good television and PBS often replays episodes so keep your eyes open. I know there are many negatives and Trumps bad all day - every day. If hope is there that 30% of the misguided voters are just scared and not racked with hate... I will take that as an improvement over what I thought yesterday. I hope you all get a chance to view it. It opened my views and gave me some hope.

  • Independent
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    TJ Wrote:

    I ask about the absence of a drastically popular man who had the attention of Millennials. Jon Stewart was on television nightly for 17 years. He poked fun at politicians, Fox news, and extreme segments in our society. I don't suggest he tried to do bad but he was a champion of progressive causes and liberals across this country until about 1 year ago.

    Last night I saw a current interview on the show on PBS hosted by Charlie Rose. He interviewed Stewart and Stewart gave me the first hope that I have had in over 2 weeks. He said you can't categorize Trump followers with blanket statements. Many deserve the negative consideration but many do not. It was really good television and PBS often replays episodes so keep your eyes open. I know there are many negatives and Trumps bad all day - every day. If hope is there that 30% of the misguided voters are just scared and not racked with hate... I will take that as an improvement over what I thought yesterday. I hope you all get a chance to view it. It opened my views and gave me some hope.

    T.J. The issue is "education"; indeed Trump followers can't help they did not get any or only "bad" education. This is the "country's fault" by refusing to follow other developed countries related to their education structure and contents. Like I said before "sports" are more important than stuffing something into the "brains" what you can use in life.

    If you get the right education then you likely are getting less "scared" because then you've learned to analyse things.

    Also in this country" keep them dumb and scared' as preached by the GOP and churches, then you will have "power" over them, as these elections have proved.

  • Center Left
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    A small segment was on you tube. Insightful with a sense of clarity.

    youtu.be/mUkv_jPgTeg

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    I agree that fox is a wacko channel.

    But cant we agree that not calling out CNN and MSNBC for being wackos, just on the other side, would be hypocrisy.

    Cnn and MSNBC are major major major major reasons why trump won.

    That is so clear.

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    That some sixty three million Americans were motivated by the bigoted campaign of the drump is very difficult for me to process. I am ashamed of my fellow citizens. Disturbed and ashamed. When I see people deliberate in their sickness, I have lost my faith in America. I know they have been brainwashed by the right wing noise machine and most are just searching for something to belong to. But I also watched the rest of the media push Hillary while slandered Bernie ignored Gary Johnson who was the most qualified candidate in the race. The Democrat party is just as corrupt and corporate friendly as the GOP. The Democrat party has engaged in non stop warfare and Americans are sick of it. Sick of the constant fear mongering done by both parties. We are tired of war. We are tired of corporations pushing us around. Tired of banks treating us like children. They have taken everything from us. They even took our social security trust fund. 2.7 trillion ,they stole it ,it's gone and they do not intend to ever put it back. They can't . They would just have to get the money from us anyway and we don't have it. That is the issue we should be talking about. You will notice no one talks about it. No one talks about real issues.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    This is the most refreshing thread in sometime. Unfortunately the same denial of conditions and circumstances that got Trump elected are now making excuses for why Trump got elected instead of facing the problem. TJ understands some of it. But until the majority can get over the indignation of President Trump nothing will happen except making Trump stronger. A solution has to start with a mea culpa and an apology for losing sight of the people. A Democratic leader has to emerge with a promise to make it better. A Democratic leader has to parallel Trump's promises with an explanation of how Democrats have historically made it better while Republicans have made it worse. Offer more safer and better and as Trump can't produce on more good paying jobs he will deflate. Stop demonizing Americans, they are a product of the system. Fix the system.

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    why do you say Trump voters were bigots ?
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    conservativecat Wrote: why do you say Trump voters were bigots ?
    Because millions of them are.
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    jaredsxtn Wrote:
    conservativecat Wrote: why do you say Trump voters were bigots ?
    Because millions of them are.
    Because he attacks minorities. When he says illegals he means poor people. People with dark skin. When confronted with race issues he is clueless disrespectful and dismissive.