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Eric Cantor loses Virginia primary to Tea Party Candidate

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  • Liberal Democrat
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    This is big news just announced. Eric Cantor was expected to win his Republican primary easily. But now he's going to join the unemployment line...or become a lobbyist. More money in that.
  • Center Left
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    Wow. That actually is really surprising. Wouldn't have guessed there was any chance for him to lose out.
  • Center Left
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    Dave Brat is the Tea Party guy that won.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    With 83 percent of the vote in he has lost by a landslide, 56% to 44% to a relatively unknown Tea Party candidate, David Brat.

    Dallas News: House Majority Leader Eric Cantor loses GOP primary to tea-party challenger

    "Cantor is the second-most powerful member of the U.S. House and was seen by some as a possible successor to the House speaker.

    "His loss to Dave Brat, a political novice with little money marks a huge victory for the tea party movement, which supported Cantor just a few years ago. Brat had been a thorn in Cantor’s side on the campaign, casting the congressman as a Washington insider who isn’t conservative enough. Last month, a feisty crowd of Brat supporters booed Cantor in front of his family at a local party convention.

    "Much of the campaign centered on immigration, where critics on both sides have recently taken aim at Cantor.

    "Brat has accused the House majority leader of being a top cheerleader for “amnesty” for immigrants in the U.S. illegally. Cantor has responded forcefully by boasting in mailers of blocking Senate plans “to give illegal aliens amnesty.”

    "It was a change in tone for Cantor, who has repeatedly voiced support for giving citizenship he comprehensive bill backed by the Senate. They’ve made no move to bring legislation to a vote and appear increasingly unlikely to act this year."


    I suppose this means an end to any comprehensive immigration reform this year. Republicans will be running scared.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    It looks like the Tea Party is alive and well. They may not know how to do well in Senate races, but they sure seem to know how to win House seats.

    With regards to immigration reform--this may free up Cantor to do something during the lame duck session. That's when things seem to get done nowadays, so I wouldn't lose all hope just yet. If nothing gets done during that session, then we might as well kiss it goodbye for now.

    However, it's important for us to look at the long view when it comes to immigration reform. If the Republicans block everything for the next two years, does anyone honestly think they have a shot at winning in 2016? The Hispanic population is only getting larger and the Republicans will never win a national election if they keep pushing this xenophobic ideology ad finem.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    I just heard on MSNBC that Cantor had outspent Brat 25:1 in this primary election. So much for the money theory.

    I also heard that voter turnout was very low.

    Hard to get your head around these facts.
  • Democrat
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    There won't be any GOP House member that would even consider immigration reform, Eric Cantor is now a lame duck House leader. There is a disconnect between some of these Pollsters and the real world, most of the GOP base is against reform, it seems they want more enforcement of existing Laws, before any reform is considered. I have cousins who live in VA. and they are always bitching about the illegals taking construction jobs, small construction jobs, but if you add up the small jobs, the numbers become quite large, now whether it's true or not it doesn't matter, it seems as if the voters believed it. This why I prefer Town Hall type meetings with the candidates being questioned by the folks as opposed to prepared debates.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    johnnycee Wrote: I have cousins who live in VA. and they are always bitching about the illegals taking construction jobs, small construction jobs, but if you add up the small jobs, the numbers become quite large, now whether it's true or not it doesn't matter, it seems as if the voters believed it. This why I prefer Town Hall type meetings with the candidates being questioned by the folks as opposed to prepared debates.
    This isn't true. It's not even remotely close to being true. How does the truth not matter? Most undocumented workers are paid slave labor wages and receive zero federal or state benefits. They aren't taking your cousins jobs. They are just trying to get by.
  • Liberal Democrat
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    As reported in this website, Eric Cantor's internal poll showed he had a 34 point lead over David Brat. Yet he lost by 12 points. How is this possible?

    It seems David Brat ran a one issue campaign...opposing immigration reform, whereas Cantor as Speaker of the House had to cut some middle ground. For the Tea Party voters of Virginia's 7th District this seems to be the issue...the only issue.
  • Democrat
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    You can proclaim all you want about it not being true, the people who voted Cantor out ,do believe it. Now if the issue was that important and you feel it was either misunderstood or just flat out wrong, then there was not enough of supporters to get what they felt was the right message out to the voters. Now did the media not get the issue out, did the GOP Establishment feel that it wasn't an issue, I look at the results, the reformers lost, it's now up to the GOP Establishment to figure out what went wrong. BTW, this the first time a incumbent House Maj.leader lost in a primary. Also they do work for substandard wages, that's why the locals can't get those jobs, and no one in CONGRESS is willing will punish those employers who do take advantage of these illegals, all they have to do is enforce the current laws.
  • Other Party
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    Yes the only issue was immigration reform. Apparently that's all it took. Polls? What polls?

    First time a House Majority Leader was defeated in more than 100 years.

    Brat was such an unknown that his wikipedia page was 2 lines just a few days ago, probably a little bigger by now.

    Cantor spent $5 Million, Brat $120,000.

    Biggest upset in this "throw the bums out" election season. So far.

    Hopefully lots more of the old regime is going to follow him.

    He will have plenty of opportunities to become a lobbyist if that's what he wants. That's where the big money is, as Schmidt pointed out.

    Who's first in line in the House behind Boehner now?
  • Liberal Democrat
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    Updating my earlier post:

    Cantor spent $5,026,000

    Brat spent $122,800

    That works out at 40:1

    But if you go on cash raised it's 26:1

    VOX: Cantor outspent Brat 25:1

    There are different numbers being bandied about the internet but I think both of these are accurate.

    What is so interesting is how in this case at least, a big money national candidate can be defeated by a passionate one issue contingent of voters that identify with a local candidate.

    Brat's Democratic opponent in November will be Jack Trammell. Both are professors at Randolph-Macon College in Ashland, VA. Brat is an economics professor...Trammell is a sociology professor.
  • Center Left Democrat
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    Eventually, Jon Stewart will have a field day with this guy's last name. If he actually won in November, Ted Cruz wouldn't be the only brat in Congress.

    Dave Brat is a professor of Economics at Randolph-Macon in Virginia. (his Democrat opponent, Jack Trammell. is also a Professor there), which means he's probably a reasonably intelligent guy. He's already earned a PhD, means that he's better educated than most members of Congress.

    The fact that FOX host Laura Ingraham endorsed his candidacy should be enough for most people to write him off as a nut case, but there's an interesting twist in Virginia that helps to explain things.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Brat

    In Virginia, Democrats and Independents can vote in Republican primaries, which makes it an open primary.

    Since the Tea Party is losing favor across the country (as of last fall, it had a 22% approval rating, and that was BEFORE the government shutdown engineered by Ted Cruz) it would actually make sense for a Democrat to vote for the guy since that SHOULD improve the chances of a Democrat to win in November.
  • Democrat
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    So Virgina's November elections will pit a economist (GOP) vs a sociologist (Dem.) both professors, should be an interesting race, as long as mud is not is thrown about, I think between both of these guys they can really inform the electorate as to what is really wrong with this country's economic policies.
  • Strongly Liberal Democrat
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    johnnycee Wrote: So Virgina's November elections will pit a economist (GOP) vs a sociologist (Dem.) both professors, should be an interesting race, as long as mud is not is thrown about, I think between both of these guys they can really inform the electorate as to what is really wrong with this country's economic policies.
    Actually, it will show how Virginia's 7th feels about our governments economic policies. They are a deeply republican and Tea Party district. That's hardly a harbinger of the overall American electorate.